she has had 42 years of training and indoctrination.
i'm feeling sort of nervous, but also looking forward to it.
this will be our second scheduled session together, and we never did agree on a topic.. i'm assuming she will come with an agenda and another prepared presentation.
Wow...this is jaw dropping stuff, really. Amazing how you keep your cool. I love your posts.
One note, you mentioned Jesus died on the CROSS for our sins......and she agreed. Whenever I mentioned cross to my bible study teacher, she looked like the devil was in the room and corrected me that it was STAKE from the Greek "Stauros"...excuse my ignorance, but has their belief changed on this?
Best, Paula x
she has had 42 years of training and indoctrination.
i'm feeling sort of nervous, but also looking forward to it.
this will be our second scheduled session together, and we never did agree on a topic.. i'm assuming she will come with an agenda and another prepared presentation.
I've enjoyed all your posts about this, so await the outcome with baited breath x
1.the organization itself denies access to reality and substitutes its own version, interpretations and meanings.. a.only watchtower approved publications are allowed.. b.no higher education is to be pursued.. c.no non-jw friends or associations are encouraged with their "outside" points of view.. d.no free-style questioning of doctrine or criticism permitted.
curiousity is verboten.. e.threat of being "marked" or disassociated looms over them.
2.between every real-world event and the rank and file jw's mind is a roadblock.. a.the moment of identifying is short-circuited by an interpretive moment of re-labeling in watchtower-speak.. b.all things happening are forced into a narrow storyline and propagandized as end times happenings leading to armageddon.. 3.social and personal identity is expunged and replaced by a collective persona: "jehovah's witness".. a.private thinking is red-flagged as selfish and sinful.. b.personal improvement, welfare and ambition is crushed and door-to-door ministry substituted as "worthy" endeavors.. c.self-conscious obsession permeates witness awareness as each person is transformed into a public spectacle of performance for judgement.. d.since you aren't an individual you don't really have a right to fall in love and marry or educate or earn.
Terry...great post.
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how can i cut down without going teetotal?
i love the taste of wine, i'm not fussed with other drinks but just need to rein in it a bit.. going wine-free tonight and tomorrow, as i'm out socially.. i also need to shift a few pounds.. thank you, everyone..
I've recently cut right down. If I want a drink, I set myself a limit and stick to it. I am in control of the alcohol not the other way around. I drink for pleasure now not to get rat arsed and forget my problems (when did that ever work, right?) I stopped telling myself I deserved a drink, using it as a reward...and telling myself other people had a bottle of wine 3 days a week, and sometimes a bottle of vodka spread out on top of that...so why shouldn't I?? I now enjoy a few glasses on a Sunday with my husband as we cook lunch and listen to the radio...but I know my limits and stick to it.
Next to fat, alcohol is the most calorific, so if you cut down you will be doing your body and brain a favour and will loose excess weight with ease, and even more with a healthy diet. The key to change, is changing your routine. Instead of reaching for the wine bottle, do something else. Changing your behaviour is hard, but as your new behaviour emerges and that becomes routine, you get used to it as normal. You are already taking positive steps by deciding to go wine free while out socially...a great start. Well done.
Paula x
i have been posting into the forum since 2001(my previous avatar was "justhuman" and when forum changed to net, i couldn't retrieve my old avatar so i had to use a similar one and log in again).
almost 15 years are gone.
made some friends here, including mr flipper and one that i really miss dearly is oompa.
I wish you everything you wish for yourself....enjoy the future ......and thank you for sharing with us.
Paula
i'm still in the matrix(the truth), but 'morpheus' and his team are valiantly working on a way to get me out.
in the meantime, everyday i am discovering so much about being a jw i never knew, like don't buy girl scout cookies, that i keep asking myself "what have i got myself into".. maat.
really lame for a first post, but i figure i should start some where.
Aw DD you big softy That played out in my head like a slow film, and made me smile
Wonder how the Op is doing.....
look...i am not an atheist.
even so, i have never had one prayer answered my entire life.
the only thing that would even come close was learning ttatt.
Never. When I learned TTATT I admit I found it difficult not to pray at night, but over time I realised it was habit....AND.....that things happen or don't happen in my life. It's as simple as that for me. And now, NOT praying, means that I don't have to ask/beg/pass the responsibility for myself onto a Super Being. I took back control, gained self-esteem and self-worth, and started rebuilding myself and my life. It's all up to me!
Paula
poor sod.
i felt quite sorry for him in the end.. for context, i was brought up as a jw since i was very young.
i left 6 years ago (faded) a little before turning 30. i was on here a lot around that time but under a different profile that's no longer active.. for the past 18 months, i'm back living in the territory of the congregation i grew up in.
You never know, it certainly would have made me think. Keep us updated please? Have a good night/day x
poor sod.
i felt quite sorry for him in the end.. for context, i was brought up as a jw since i was very young.
i left 6 years ago (faded) a little before turning 30. i was on here a lot around that time but under a different profile that's no longer active.. for the past 18 months, i'm back living in the territory of the congregation i grew up in.
Do you think anything you said sunk in and got the cogs turning? Do you think you will talk again? x
i regularly watch family feud.. homeland is a great show i watch every week, when it's in season.. metv has so many great programs---from taxi to the twilight zone.. what do you like watching?
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Dr Who
The Mentalist
Our "Apostate" Happy video clip :)
Anything with Ricky Gervais :)
